Now players have to scout for dense regions, protect miners, and think on resource supply chains rather than assign hundreds of miners to a station and forgetting about it. Resource density change is a good example. Roleplayers need to understand that balance and restrictions are the THINK part of the game. Which is a bit sad as I really like the aesthetics of Behemoth, but it is simply outperformed by ships from DLCs. If I can build the most powerful destroyer, like Syn, in the game I will not invest any resources in other ships. If I can mix terran shields with split engines to get the best equipment on my fighters I will do it. If I can earn millions by abusing capturing of terran build ship without losing rep I will do it. If there is an option that is superior to anything else I cannot justify a reason not to use it. I am not a roleplayer like GCU Grey Area. The main reason to limiting player assets is indeed to make game more challenging. This is the most relevant comment in this discussion. Any of those sound familiar?Ī mechanic isn't a limitation because it requires the player to exercise choice or tactics. That's why we also see other threads pop up now and again like: 'Changes to the economy just slow down the game' 'player choice does not matter because the universe runs itself' 'Xenon get wiped out too early and pose no threat (currently one on the front page now)'. They are trying to extend the time it takes to get to your goal (mining changes, economy changes). This also explains changes that egosoft is making to the game. No matter how many 'limitations' you set for yourself, you are not solving the main problem that the game lacks challenge. Time is the thing that wins in this game, not player skill or choice. With enough time, the player will reach their goals. My opinion: If we define 'victory' for this game as 'player reaching their goals', the game is not challenging. The trouble is that it's hard to flesh out an idea for more challenge without making it sound like a limitation.Ĭoming together here, ask: 'How can the devs create a more challenging game without imposing limitations on the player?' Once we re-frame the question we'll have a more productive discussion. When one side presents these ideas, the meaning behind what they are saying is they want more challenge to their game. It seems like the word 'limitation' has become synonymous with 'challenge'.

I respect both sides of the argument here, but every time this comes up I feel like we're having two different conversations. I can limit myself to create more challenging situations. Theae discussuions come up every 6 momths or so, someone who can't impose limitations on themself wants to now impose limits on others.

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